I would love the Magrittes. He's one of my favorite surrealists. Ducky's a big Piet Mondrian fan. I prefer his early, more "realistic" works. I never got into the Partidge Family bus... ;)
It made me think of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle...
from Wiki - In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle, also known as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle or Heisenberg's indeterminacy principle, is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities[1] asserting a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle, known as complementary variables, such as position x and momentum p, can be known.
Introduced first in 1927, by the German physicist Werner Heisenberg, it states that the more precisely the position of some particle is determined, the less precisely its momentum can be known, and vice versa.[2] The formal inequality relating the standard deviation of position σx and the standard deviation of momentum σp was derived by Earle Hesse Kennard[3] later that year and by Hermann Weyl[4] in 1928:
σ x σ p ≥ ℏ 2 {\displaystyle \sigma _{x}\sigma _{p}\geq {\frac {\hbar }{2}}~~} \sigma _{x}\sigma _{p}\geq {\frac {\hbar }{2}}~~
(ħ is the reduced Planck constant, h / (2π)).
Historically, the uncertainty principle has been confused[5][6] with a somewhat similar effect in physics, called the observer effect, which notes that measurements of certain systems cannot be made without affecting the systems, that is, without changing something in a system. Heisenberg utilized such an observer effect at the quantum level (see below) as a physical "explanation" of quantum uncertainty.[7] It has since become clearer, however, that the uncertainty principle is inherent in the properties of all wave-like systems,[8] and that it arises in quantum mechanics simply due to the matter wave nature of all quantum objects.
The moment you "fix" a quantum particle's position precisely, you lose the ability to capture its' corresponding momentum. It creates a "gap" which introduces uncertainty into subsequent calculations.
The longer you stare into the abyss, the more it gazes back at you! ;)
Back in my sailing days I used to take all kinds of pictures of the ocean and sea, and none came out like LeGray's. He may have fudged some of them with double exposures, but they're still incredible, regardless. Sun, sky and sea... all perfectly proportioned.
Yes, his work is amazing. He definitely spliced his negatives, but evidently that was common practice with that type of photography (Daguerrotype, I think). Evidently it was difficult to get a good exposure of the water AND the sky...it was either or, but not both. So photographers pieced together the best of each. And we thought photoshop was a new concept. ;-)
well, i don't follow the quantum physics of the philosophy of time, but lots of photographers over time have argued that capturing the event / moment on film inherently changes the scene / event itself. I think Ducky has said this before, which explains why he never approaches his subjects and has a different approach than I do.
I don't care so much about capturing moments without becoming involved ("street" photography isn't my thing). But I have wondered often about how photographing moments affects our memories of them, for both the photographer and the subject. I see so many kids in a special place and all they seem to care about is getting 800 perfect selfies to post to instagram / twitter, etc. They likely won't remember anything substantial about the locations.
I don't do the selfie thing so much, but i can be quite absent if i take a lot of film on vacation. kinda ironic that i'm trying to get images to pass down to the kids so they'll be able to feel those family connections to time and place, yet i often feel outside of the experience itself (DISconnected).
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i went to the Dallas museum of art last week and saw several Magrittes.
i love how exciting and fulfilling it is to see them in person.
they have a nice selection of Mondrian, too.
I would love the Magrittes. He's one of my favorite surrealists. Ducky's a big Piet Mondrian fan. I prefer his early, more "realistic" works. I never got into the Partidge Family bus... ;)
As far as painters go, Manet is one of my favorites.
But my MOST favorite exhibit in recent years was Gustave LeGray.
http://nonsite.org/article/photography-and-the-philosophy-of-time
https://www.google.com/search?q=gustave+le+gray+mediterranean+sea+at+sete&rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS708US709&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=3ZRYwqbuWZh7IM%253A%252CrRC6elHfrkzp-M%252C_&usg=__MhgcYgGQRWl74EK4MsHIKK72nLw%3D&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQtfyTm4bYAhUG2SYKHdtUD7YQ9QEIMTAB#imgrc=3ZRYwqbuWZh7IM:
...on the philosophy of time article,
It made me think of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle...
from Wiki - In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle, also known as Heisenberg's uncertainty principle or Heisenberg's indeterminacy principle, is any of a variety of mathematical inequalities[1] asserting a fundamental limit to the precision with which certain pairs of physical properties of a particle, known as complementary variables, such as position x and momentum p, can be known.
Introduced first in 1927, by the German physicist Werner Heisenberg, it states that the more precisely the position of some particle is determined, the less precisely its momentum can be known, and vice versa.[2] The formal inequality relating the standard deviation of position σx and the standard deviation of momentum σp was derived by Earle Hesse Kennard[3] later that year and by Hermann Weyl[4] in 1928:
σ x σ p ≥ ℏ 2 {\displaystyle \sigma _{x}\sigma _{p}\geq {\frac {\hbar }{2}}~~} \sigma _{x}\sigma _{p}\geq {\frac {\hbar }{2}}~~
(ħ is the reduced Planck constant, h / (2π)).
Historically, the uncertainty principle has been confused[5][6] with a somewhat similar effect in physics, called the observer effect, which notes that measurements of certain systems cannot be made without affecting the systems, that is, without changing something in a system. Heisenberg utilized such an observer effect at the quantum level (see below) as a physical "explanation" of quantum uncertainty.[7] It has since become clearer, however, that the uncertainty principle is inherent in the properties of all wave-like systems,[8] and that it arises in quantum mechanics simply due to the matter wave nature of all quantum objects.
The moment you "fix" a quantum particle's position precisely, you lose the ability to capture its' corresponding momentum. It creates a "gap" which introduces uncertainty into subsequent calculations.
The longer you stare into the abyss, the more it gazes back at you! ;)
Those are some amazing photographs!
Back in my sailing days I used to take all kinds of pictures of the ocean and sea, and none came out like LeGray's. He may have fudged some of them with double exposures, but they're still incredible, regardless. Sun, sky and sea... all perfectly proportioned.
Yes, his work is amazing. He definitely spliced his negatives, but evidently that was common practice with that type of photography (Daguerrotype, I think). Evidently it was difficult to get a good exposure of the water AND the sky...it was either or, but not both. So photographers pieced together the best of each. And we thought photoshop was a new concept. ;-)
well, i don't follow the quantum physics of the philosophy of time, but lots of photographers over time have argued that capturing the event / moment on film inherently changes the scene / event itself. I think Ducky has said this before, which explains why he never approaches his subjects and has a different approach than I do.
I don't care so much about capturing moments without becoming involved ("street" photography isn't my thing). But I have wondered often about how photographing moments affects our memories of them, for both the photographer and the subject. I see so many kids in a special place and all they seem to care about is getting 800 perfect selfies to post to instagram / twitter, etc. They likely won't remember anything substantial about the locations.
I don't do the selfie thing so much, but i can be quite absent if i take a lot of film on vacation. kinda ironic that i'm trying to get images to pass down to the kids so they'll be able to feel those family connections to time and place, yet i often feel outside of the experience itself (DISconnected).
Like all those Japanese kids who view the world from "the Big Others" view...(sky looking down).
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